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Israel and the Unites States seek to undermine the Arab nations to achieve their objectives in the occupied Palestinian territories, says an analyst.

Press TV interviewed Dr. Hesham Tillawi, the host of Current Issues TV and Radio, regarding the current situation in the Middle East, with an eye on Yemen where anti-government protesters have been demanding the ouster of President Ali Abdullah Saleh.

The following is the rough transcription of the interview.

Press TV: Now first of all there seems to be a going divide between the opposition and the people that are pretesting on the streets of Yemen. What do you make of this gulf between the two?

Tillawi: Its very simple, the leaders of the opposition who are in contact with the [Persian] Gulf Cooperation Council ([P]GCC) and with the Unites States government, they are very much trying to broker a deal, I mean the deal is already done. Now it's a matter of bringing this deal down to the streets, of course it is going to have oppositions from the streets, I believe all these oppositions will subside in the next few days and I believe the deal is done and the deal will be taking place. There is no question about it. I think next Monday will be the ..., they will fine the deal between the opposition and the government.

Press TV: Do agree this deal signals a hijacking of the revolution by the Persian Gulf Co-operation Council, in particular in Saudi Arabia as well as the US, or do you really think this is actually going to usher in democracy?

Tillawi: Lets not call it revolutions, let's call it whatever it is. This is planned by the powers end up controlling the region. It is no secret that the ambassador of the United States was instrumental in the dealings with the opposition in Yemen. It is no secret that the supreme military council had met in Washington a week before Mubarak stepped down. It is no secret that the Unites States is medaling in Libya. You know when you see John McCain, couple of days ago in Benghazi, calling for the recognition of the opposition military council there, as the legit representative of Arabian people. He did not say 'of Libya', he did not say of 'the Libyan people', he said 'of Libyan people'.

This means they have divided in to two or more, just like they are planning to do in Iraq, just like they are planning to do in Yemen, in Sudan. So please let stop calling what we are seeing in the Middle East as revolutions, because they are not. As we have stated many time on your network, revolutions take about 20 years to actually develop before you take it out to the streets. I have asked government official in Egypt, when did you know the president was actually going to step down? They said about 24 to 48 hours before he did, so let's call these [by] what they are. Where are these revolutions going? Do they have a plan, do they have an aim? A revolution should have an aim. A revolution should be in an incubator, so it can get out in the streets, and do whatever needs to be done. Every one of them have one slogan, that slogan is the removal of the regime, that's all they want. Now they want to see what is going on in Yemen, because actually [it] has taken a little bit longer than they wanted it to take, because they have spotted things in Syria, now they want Syria. Yemen is completely [overridden] so now the attention is on Syria. Yemen has taken a little bit longer than they have anticipated.

Press TV: Who stands to gain from this, considering all the US allies are leaving their strategic posts and not to mention the economic impact that this uprising and unrest brings with it?

Tillawi: Let's not forget that the United States interest will always be protected by whomever is there, there is no question about that. The only one that will end up gaining out of this whole thing is the Zionist regime in which they have planned this. People need to go and visit these strategic plans called A Strategy for Israel in the 1980s. To see exactly what is going on in the Arab countries and what is happening. Israel wants to weaken the Arab countries by dividing them in too many, many countries that will be at war with each other.

Israel wants to divide the only thing that was holding in the face of the Arab people in all these Arab countries, even though this was separate regimes. The Arab people have lock at Israel as the enemy number one when they are done in Yemen, in Libya, in every country in the Arab world, they will have people going after each other, against each other, you will see Arab states going against each other, [and] you will see people in the same country going against each other. That's exactly what they want, they wrote about, they said 'that what they are going to do', and they are using the plan that they actually wrote. I don't know why people don't read. All they have to do is go and read A Strategy for Israel in the 1980s. They have taken every Arab country, and they said this country is built on one, two, and three. We can do this.... and this is exactly what is happening now. And tighten tension according to religion, according to ..... that's what they are doing, and that exactly what they want. They want chaos in the Arab world, so Israel can do what it needs it to do in the west bank. Israel will not have a Palestinian state, an independent Palestinian state, west of the river Jordan; they said that and this will give them that.

Press TV: What option is there for the people then, should they just sit back and accept a dictator rule over them in their lives? Or pretest and but then face criticisms of US interference as well as meddling from neighboring countries? What can the people do then?

Tillawi: Well I think that was the strategy, because there was no strategy to start with. So now you are in the middle of the river and you have to learn how to swim. You know someone threw you in there and you do not know how to swim. So I think they have actually no other choice but to stir the course, but the only thing is what we have seen what happen to Egypt, where people actually remained in Tahrir square, but we have also have see how they are not there anymore because... they have the power that took over, they did not know the emotion of the people by saying ' we are going to arrest Hosni Mubarak and we are going to put them on trial', so they have a couple of people as escape goats and the people very much said ' oh now we do have democracy, we have people that will actually these leaders that we had into court'.

So they will do the same thing in Yemen when Ali Abdullah Saleh is gone, there will be the same thing, they will have the people around him in jail and the people who think that every things good after that. And unfortunately when you don't planned, you have chaos. This was not planned so I don't really see many options for the people because once Ali Abdullah Saleh is gone, then we are face with who is going to be in control and unless that power is actually put on there by the Unites States by the regimes and powers out there. The people didn't have much to do with actually getting out on the streets, accept somebody has stirred them, and they really don't have much to say and were they are headed.

Press TV: The people are now aware and awoken, of the atrocities of the political structures within their societies? Even if the current regime manages to delude them by bringing in cosmetic changes, do you think these people are going to sit quietly for the next 50, 60 years?

Tillawi: Well I hope not, but I hope at least in the next 20 years they should be planning the real revolution, a revolution such as what happen in your country, and Iran. They took 20 years to plan that revolution, and it's still there. But you've got to plan; I wish I can but... I have no choice but to agree [that] there is no other option.

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